PART 08 - Let's Ask An Orchestration Teacher

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Let's Ask an Orchestration Teacher

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[DarkestShadow]

That orchestral piece in the beginning!! The guy is brilliant!

[Headshot]

Indeed he is !

[Raph]

Fell in love with his work too. Where can we hear more?

[Headshot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwOsLPnk-xk



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXV-K9hM5RI

[Raph]

You rock! Thanks a lot

[Strickland]

Brilliant !

[Farkle]

Good lord, that opening orchestral section. Just luscious. Clearly this composer has a great love of the delicate impressionistic shadings (lots of Ravel influence there), and is delivering at the highest level. This cat is the real deal. Thank you for sharing him, Headshot! Going to check him out on Spotify now.

Mike

[Kyle Judkins]

He doesn't have any triple A titles under his belt, maybe he could take a few lessons from the Z

>:)

[Olivier Calmel]

Hello tutti
thanks a lot for your words.
Despite I'm not triple A ;), I have a lot of work to do, mainly commissioned in concert music.

I answered those questions as honestly as I could, according to my craft.
I think very sincerely what I said in my answers. And this raises many questions. It would be nice if people close to Mr Zimmer come here to express themselves freely.

[phil_l]

This raises absolutely no questions.

Look at the credits of Hans Zimmer soundtracks , everything is clearly stated :

orchestrators
additional composers
arrangers
conductors
mixer
sample makers
synth programming
musicians
technical advisor
interns

Crediting people is admitting that they do exist. I don't see what more Hans need to do .


You cant write in the end credits :

"Music by HZ , Orchestrators, arrangers, conductors, msuicians, copyists"
as much as you dont put

"Movie directed by James Cameron, 2nd director unit , 3rd director, assistant director, "

The architect, and the chief of the department is credited first.

So what about the set decorator?
It's often written "set decoration by xx" where xx is one person. But you have 40 people working
on the set decoration.

[Strickland]

This raises absolutely no questions.

Look at the credits of Hans Zimmer soundtracks , everything is clearly stated :

orchestrators
additional composers
arrangers
conductors
mixer
sample makers
synth programming
musicians
technical advisor
interns

Crediting people is admitting that they do exist. I don't see what more Hans need to do .


You cant write in the end credits :

"Music by HZ , Orchestrators, arrangers, conductors, msuicians, copyists"
as much as you dont put

"Movie directed by James Cameron, 2nd director unit , 3rd director, assistant director, "

The architect, and the chief of the department is credited first.

So what about the set decorator?
It's often written "set decoration by xx" where xx is one person. But you have 40 people working
on the set decoration.

Do you understand what HZ said ? " I did write and orchestrated that whole piece. That's why it's not that good. "Let me be very clear : every note was sequenced by me and and then transcribed verbatim for the players."

For Olivier, those excerpts CAN'T have been composed and orchestrated by the same person at the same time. Seriously, are you just trolling the debate and pretend to not understand what the subject is ?

[Raph]

You cant write in the end credits :

"Music by HZ , Orchestrators, arrangers, conductors, msuicians, copyists"
as much as you dont put

"Movie directed by James Cameron, 2nd director unit , 3rd director, assistant director, "


100% agree, but off-topic.

[Strickland]

You cant write in the end credits :

"Music by HZ , Orchestrators, arrangers, conductors, msuicians, copyists"
as much as you dont put

"Movie directed by James Cameron, 2nd director unit , 3rd director, assistant director, "


100% agree, but off-topic.

Off topic, ok, but on the movie end credits of "A league of their own", no additional composer, no arranger, no orchestrator is credited, just music by Hans Zimmer, score conducted by Shirley Walker.

And I don't get the point, why can't they be listed ? What an end credits is for ? You have the 2nd director unit, the 3rd one, everyone is (or should be) listed.

[Kyle Judkins]

dear God I was being ironic when I said he didn't have any triple A titles, then comes the most salty mfer to white knight for zimmer

"he is a good composer because his name is ductaped to things that aren't even primarily music related. "

Oliver writes music for people who like music, and plan on going to an event where the music is actually the main attraction, not some hot shot actors cgi and explosions.

imagine that actual music is interesting enough for people to actually go see it without Johnny Depp or Samuel Jackson. No fancy outfits, just music.

I'd love to see your zimmer god captivate anything other than nostalgia attached to a movie.

can't wait to see your credits too...

so I can value your opinion less!!


actually, serious question, if a composers value is how many triple A titles they've written, does that mean Zimmer has written 0? or does his "value points" get distributed evenly amongst his mile long list of composers and orchestrators that he uses to make himself look impressive?